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Tuesday, February 22, 2005
 
A response to Lightning Empiricist Comments on the MVM
by Cordeiro
But first, a primer in Comments decorum.

This is a blog, which by definition is a small corner of the world of ideas. It is a place where myself, Bonjo, and occasionally the MIA Thom the Blog Culler may present our ideas in a public forum. The comment feature is a mechanism by which brief responses may be submitted regarding the commentary read here.

Comments are not a blog unto themselves. If you have an comment that exceeds say 500 words or so, go set up your own blog and see if anyone cares to read what you write.

Now, you may want to know what brought on this train of thought.

Some time ago, I posted commentary on "Professor" Ward Churchill (AKA Miserable Vomitous Mass or MVM) and his "academic" works portraying the victims of the WTC as "Little Eichmanns" and the murdering terrorist thugs as "combat teams".

In this post I gave my opinions on the MVM's use of the First Amendment as a shield against retribution or any other consequence for his statements. While I may disagree with MVM's use of this defense, I was willing to let it slide due to the fact there are far more effective reasons for firing his sorry carcass.

Enter Lightning Empiricist.

As you can tell by his "comment", Mr. Lightning evidently believes any attack on the MVM threatens the very foundation upon which this nation was built. I disagree - somewhat respectfully.

The MVM is in hot water largely because of the Blogosphere. You see, we don't let things blow over or fade into obscurity. Three, maybe four years ago, MVM's comments would've passed largely unnoticed. He would be free to litter academic journals with his pathetic excuses for learnedness. The world would happily spin forward and nobody would care.

Today, however, the online world doesn't let that happen anymore. Just ask John "Lurch" Kerry about his Vietnam record. If you can't find him, try Eason Jordan, formerly of CNN, and Dan "Stark Raving Naked" Rather, soon to be formerly of CBS.

The fact of the matter is, "news" organizations such as CNN have failed in their primary duty of reporting news. The New York Times boasts it has "All The News That's Fit To Print", when really its only all the news the NYT sees fit to print.

Why is it then that FOX News, Talk Radio, and the Blogosphere are so successful? I submit the reason lies in their penchant for providing news in an unfiltered environment. People watch FOX, listen to Talk Radio, and read the Blogosphere because those outlets give them what they want. What does the MSM give the people? The MSM gives the people what the MSM Establishment believes they should receive.

All you have to do is check the ratings for CNN and Air America to see that strategy is not working very well.

Freedom of Speech does not entitle you to an audience. It does not provide you with a shield with which to quench to scathing and blistering attacks provoked by your statements. It does not entitle you to avoid being canned as a result of what you say. It merely says Congress cannot outlaw your ability to speak.

For the record, Mr. Lighting Empiricist, I did not advocate firing the MVM for what he said. I provided ample evidence (of which there is plenty more) of his fraudulent background, which is sufficient grounds for dismissal even in the Ivory Towered world of Academia.

Should you wish for someone to actually take the time to read your diatribe, SCOTUS quotes and all, go start your own blog.

Here endeth the lesson.
10 Comment(s):
As Ann Coulter recently said: Churchill's not Crazy Horse. He's just crazy. 

Posted by Bonjo
TRUTH EVASIVE FROM PROFESSOR CORDEIRO - RED HERRING ALERT !


Lightning Empiricist: Notes that only 45 words of Cordeiro's 610 word posting located at http://sonsoftherepublic.blogspot.com/2005/02/response-to-lightning-empiricist.html
has anything at all to do with his posting's alleged subject, that is - responding to "Lightning Empiricist comments", whereas the entirety of both of our statements remains (as of Feb 26, 2005) presently uncensored at: http://sonsoftherepublic.blogspot.com/2005/02/freedom-of-speech-does-not-equate-to.html#comments

The remaining 565 words of his very own “diatribe” is dedicated to sanctimonious recitals of: "Cordeiro's Manners Code for Comments in response to his posts", "silverback-style" chest-beating about how righteous and powerful his and other miniature digital fiefdoms are becoming on the "world scene", and concludes with Cordeiro's patented portrayal of an apparent messiah complex ("Here endeth the lesson."), demonstrating Cordeiro's pompous vanity as well as his apparent unawareness that such self-absorption makes him into a parody of himself.


Cordeiro: 'I will not, however, back down from my assertion that "Professor" Churchill is a fraud. If you'd bother to read evidence supporting that fact, you'd find that: 1. Churchill has repeatedly used his "Native American" heritage as a springboard to a lofty perch in academia. He as much admitted this to be false yesterday in Hawaii. He's as much an Indian as I am.'

Cordeiro: ‘The fact that he has misrepresented his "ethnicity"’ … ‘calls into question his qualifications to do that for which he was hired.’


Lightning Empiricist: Cordeiro offers this Feb 8, 2005 article as "evidence":
Campos: TRUTH TRICKY FOR CHURCHILL
February 8, 2005
http://www.rockymountainnews.com
'... "To the extent that Churchill was hired because he claimed to be a Native American, he would seem to be guilty of academic fraud.' ... 'Paul Campos is a professor of law at the University of Colorado.'

It seems that perhaps Professor Campos himself might have done his homework before implying that "Churchill was hired because he claimed to be a Native American". Note that current Colorado Statute 24-50-141 (quoted below in this comment) shows that all "affirmative action corrective remedies" that served to elevate the standing of any public employee's job application on the basis of their ethnicity (beyond eligible list rankings based upon merit, and merit only) ended by law in 1979, at a time prior to the submittal of Churchill's resume and application (submitted in January, 1980), as well as prior to his appointment to the position (which took place in January, 1980), as reported by The Daily Camera (who reports having received photocopies of Churchill's resume and application from the University of Colorado on Friday, Feb 11, 2005).

'COLORADO STATUTE 24-50-141. Rules - limitations - affirmative action corrective remedies - implementation. [ Effective until July 1, 2005 ]
(1) It is the intent of the general assembly to encourage the implementation of equal employment opportunities and affirmative action corrective remedies within the state personnel system ...
(2) Rules and regulations of the state personnel system adopted and implemented in accordance with this section ... are repealed, effective January 1, 1980, and the authority of the board to adopt and implement any affirmative action corrective remedy or rule, which allows or provides for, or incorporates by reference, requisitions or referrals which are in addition to the names of the three persons ranking highest on the appropriate eligible list or combination of such lists, is terminated on such date.' http://www.leg.state.co.us/

CHURCHILL'S RESUME SAYS CHEROKEE
CHURCHILL CLAIMED NATIVE DESCENT ON CU APPLICATION
By Kate Larsen, Camera Staff Writer
February 12, 2005
http://www.dailycamera.com
'Friday, CU released copies of Churchill's 1980 application and resume to the Daily Camera.'
'Controversial professor Ward Churchill marked an "X" next to the "American Indian or Alaskan Native" category of his 1980 University of Colorado job application. And on his 1980 resume, Churchill identified himself as "Creek/Cherokee (unenrolled).'

Note that on the same day that Campos published in the Rocky Mountain News (Feb 8, 2005), The Daily Camera reported that UC will not investigate Churchill's claims of ethnicity - perhaps because Churchill appears to not have either applied for, or been appointed to, his position under any such affirmative action corrective remedy or rule of any sort under Colorado law, whatsoever.

The only remaining hope for this "Native American fraud" pitch is the remote possibility of the (very unlikely) situation that the decision to hire Churchill was a result of his numerical ranking on the "eligible list" of candidates being EXACTLY equal to an alternative candidate, and where Mr. Churchill would (possibly) then have been hired on the basis of alleged "minority ethnicity". The Daily Camera article below, however, seems hardly encouraging for those who thrive on the boiling of tar and the collection of feathers on the basis of Churchill’s ethnicity.

CU SAYS ETHNICITY NOT PART OF PROBE
CHURCHILL'S WRITINGS, SPEECHES ONLY THING BEING INVESTIGATED
By Vanessa Miller, Camera Staff Writer
February 8, 2005
http://www.dailycamera.com
'The University of Colorado's investigation into professor Ward Churchill's work will not include his claims of ethnicity ...'
'"This investigation is on his scholarly body of work," CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale said Monday. Hale said the university hires based on qualifications and does not have a policy requiring professors of ethnic issues to be of a specific ethnicity. Churchill joined CU's staff in January 1980 as a director in the equal opportunity program ...'
'Garnett Tatum, director of the department of equal opportunity, said an employee could get in trouble for lying on a resume about degrees or qualifications, but one's ethnicity is subjective.
"He was hired because he had the qualifications that the department was looking for at that time," Tatum said. "And if someone says they are one-sixteenth, and they self-represent as Indian, how are you going to say they are not Indian? If you say you are Hispanic because that is the culture you were raised with and identify with, no one is going to put you in jail."'

I will watch with interest to see if Cordeiro either: allows this evidence which clearly controverts his claims to appear on his (now infamous) "Sons of Liberty"
blog site; or makes an effort to suppress these facts by altering, truncating, or completely deleting this comment. Here's looking at you, Cordeiro. The whole world is watching you now, in order to see what you are really, really made of.
Will you retract your unsubstantiated assertions, or pull a “Dan Rather”, too?

Cordeiro states, “Here we are men of action and substance. You might want to better aquaint yourself with such traits.”. Cordeiro is free to keep the “action-figure” self-image if he finds such self-worship gratifying to his subtle manhood, but the claim of “substance” must be backed up by reliable and accurate claims, lest the accuser, in the course of his prosecution, himself become the accused.

Speaking of fraud, Cordeiro (who has directed The Lightning Empiricist to “Go take your SCOTUS opinions and find a blog that trifles with legalese.”), himself declares, “for the record, here is the correct definition of fraud.”, offering an excerpt from the text of “Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law”, then pompously adds, “I have no idea where you came up with your definition.”, as if the Lightning Empiricist’s statement that “fraud” involves the action of “willfully depriving others of their rights” was incoherent garbage from a 3rd Grade “My Weekly Reader”.

Cordeiro having introduced definitions of “legalese” into the conversation, The Lightning Empiricist provides an excerpt from “Black’s Law Dictionary” definition: “It consists of some deceitful practice or willful device, resorted to with intent to deprive another of his right, or in some manner do him injury. As distinguished from negligence, it is always positive, intentional. It comprises all acts, omissions, and concealments involving a breach of a legal or equitable duty and resulting in damage to another. And includes anything calculated to deceive, whether it be a single act or combination of circumstances, whether the suppression of truth or the suggestion of what is false, whether it be by direct falsehood or innuendo, by speech or by silence, by word of mouth, or by look or gesture.”

Holy Horsedung, Batman! That definition of “fraud” could scarcely be a better description of virtually every public official in the United States, from our fearful leader “Johnny B. God”, every member of his specious cabinet of flesh-ripping sanctimonious weasels, the Governor of Colorado, the Colorado state legislature, egomaniacal petty tyrants like Churchill himself, and even … Cordeiro himself!

That said, I refuse to become “tied to my enemies in chains of hatred”. Cordeiro is a legend in his own mind. Let him satiate his lust for glory, while basking in the phony warm glow of his entourage of magpie sycophants chirping in unison!

I will, however, note that such jingoistic and predatory forces as the “Sons of the Republic” appear to represent are, in my opinion, anathema to the concept of “Republic” (a nation governed by the rule of law, as opposed to sometimes fickle and self serving whims of majority rule), and represent precisely what John Stuart Mill (grandfather of Libertarian thought, which Cordeiro appears to be remarkably ignorant about at in his condescending and pitifully sexist post at http://sonsoftherepublic.blogspot.com/2005/02/cpac-2005-libertarians.html )
warns of in Mill’s classic essay entitled “On Liberty”, an excerpt of which follows:

‘ … the tyranny of the majority was at first, and is still vulgarly, held in dread, chiefly as operating through the acts of the public authorities. But reflecting persons perceived that when society is itself the tyrant – society collectively, over the separate individuals who compose it – its means of tyrannizing are not restricted to the acts which it may do by the hands of its political functionaries. Society can and does execute its own mandates: and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at all in things which it ought not to meddle, it practices a social tyranny more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape, penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul itself. Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not enough: there needs to be protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling; against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct upon those who dissent from them; to fetter the development, and, if possible, prevent the formation, of any individuality not in harmony with its ways, and compel all characters to fashion themselves upon the model of its own.’


The Oracle Has Spoken ... :)
 

Posted by The Lightning Empiricist
Hey! That wasn't Cordeiro, that was MY condescending and pitifully sexist post at http://sonsoftherepublic.blogspot.com/2005/02/cpac-2005-libertarians.html.

If my posts are going to get airtime, I want airtime too, dammit! 

Posted by Bonjo
Careful, there, Ms. Lightning, your word by word (blow by blow) dissections of my work may add to my growning messiah complex.

You went to great lengths to attempt to discredit my claims of fraud as it relates to "Professor" Churchill. While I am impressed with the lengths to which you will go to prove a point, I'm still not going to concede said point.

I don't care whether or not CU is investigating "Professor" Churchill's "ethnicity" claims or not. The fact is, he deliberately misled CU on his application/resume. I take it from the fact that you mentioned this in your comment that you stipulate to this fact. Thank you, counselor.

Do misrepresentations matter in the academic or professional worlds? Ask George O'Leary  - he lasted about a week as the Notre Dame Head Football Coach before it was found that his resume didn't add up. Yes, I will grant you that was a sports job. Should not college professors be held to the same standards as football coaches?

The bottom line, Ms. Lightning, is there is some fine print at the bottom of most, if not all, job applications. It clearly states that any   misrepresentation on the form can and may well result in the applicant not being hired, or being dismissed from said position if hired. I'm fairly certian that legalese was on Churchill's application form.

To be bluntly obtuse - what I'm trying to say is that there are plenty of reasons to fire "Professor" Churchill. He opened up this closet when he started taking cheap shots at terror victims. These are his skeletons, he'll have to deal with them.

Now, Ms. Lightning took several personal shots at me. That's ok. I'm a big guy and I can take my licks - unlike most lefties I'm familiar with who immediately start crying foul the moment someone takes a shot at them.

Ms. Lighting's comments will always be welcome here. We (there are three of us by the way - Bonjo gets upset when you mistake his posts for mine) don't censor, spike, or otherwise edit or delete commments. There are exceptions to this policy, namely those comments which are profane, abusive, or an obvious ad for some site that has nothing to do with the original post, are subject to deletion or similar fates.

A few closing comments:

1. On the definition of "fraud". I simply stated I had no idea where you got yours. Thank you for providing the complete quote. Even in that legalese definition, I believe "anything calculated to deceive, whether it be a single act or combination of circumstances, whether the suppression of truth or the suggestion of what is false, whether it be by direct falsehood or innuendo, by speech or by silence, by word of mouth, or by look or gesture.” fits "Professor" Churchill nicely.

By the way, if you're including me with people like W, Condi, Rummy and company - thanx for the compliment.

2. Its good to know that we here at the Sons of the Republic may be infamous. We have no idea who the Sons of Liberty are.

3. Your work is very good - well thought out and very articulate - not to mention humurous as hell. Take ten minutes and start your own blog. For the record, http://lightningempiricist.blogspot.com is availible.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got some "silverback-style" chest-beating to do.

Here endeth the lesson.
 

Posted by Cordeiro
Cordeiro,

Nice to find you in what seems like a more jovial mood today, big guy!


Cordeiro: 'The bottom line, Ms. Lightning, is there is some fine print at the bottom of most, if not all, job applications. It clearly states that any misrepresentation on the form can and may well result in the applicant not being hired, or being dismissed from said position if hired. I'm fairly certian that legalese was on Churchill's application form.'

LE: What direct knowledge, other than mere speculation, makes you certain that Churchill's application stated that? 1980 was a long time ago, and (in particular) public employment (as well as private sector) application forms were, in general, less paranoid and carefully crafted back then. And if it in fact did, why does CU at Boulder (as well as The Daily Camera, having a photocopy of said application form) appear to be so uniterested in such an alleged "fact"? Are they all in "cahoots", *all* "pussyfooting liberals"?


Cordeiro: 'To be bluntly obtuse -'.
LE: "Obtuse" means "slow-witted" (Mirriam-Webster Dictionary). Did you *really* mean say "to be bluntly slow-witted" ... :)


Cordeiro: 'Bonjo gets upset when you mistake his posts for mine'
LE: My apology to you for the error of false attribution. Also, the "Sons of the Liberty" typo as opposed to the properly stated "Sons of the Republic" (don't know *what* I was thinking with "liberty" bit ... :)
 

Posted by The Lightning Empiricist
Cordeiro,

Nice to find you in what seems like a more jovial mood today, big guy!


Cordeiro: 'The bottom line, Ms. Lightning, is there is some fine print at the bottom of most, if not all, job applications. It clearly states that any misrepresentation on the form can and may well result in the applicant not being hired, or being dismissed from said position if hired. I'm fairly certian that legalese was on Churchill's application form.'

LE: What direct knowledge, other than mere speculation, makes you certain that Churchill's application stated that? 1980 was a long time ago, and (in particular) public employment (as well as private sector) application forms were, in general, less paranoid and carefully crafted back then. And if it in fact did, why does CU at Boulder (as well as The Daily Camera, having a photocopy of said application form) appear to be so uniterested in such an alleged "fact"? Are they all in "cahoots", *all* "pussyfooting liberals"?


Cordeiro: 'To be bluntly obtuse -'.
LE: "Obtuse" means "slow-witted" (Mirriam-Webster Dictionary). Did you *really* mean say "to be bluntly slow-witted" ... :)


Cordeiro: 'Bonjo gets upset when you mistake his posts for mine'
LE: My apology to you for the error of false attribution. Also, the "Sons of the Liberty" typo as opposed to the properly stated "Sons of the Republic" (don't know *what* I was thinking with "liberty" bit ... :)
 

Posted by The Lightning Empiricist
Bonjo,

Sorry about my incorrect attribution of your comments to Cordeiro - corrected for this record, "Bonjo's condescending and pitifully sexist post".

Cheers

PS - I have no idea why my single clicks have lead to a double-post (above). If such occurs in the case of this post, know that I am *doubly* sorry ... :)
Ok, I'll freely admit that I don't have a copy of a 1980 employment application to CU handy. I will, however, also admit to having applied to CU both as a student and as an employee during that decade - and both applications had the aforementioned legalese as part of the process.

Having been absent from CU for more years than I will here admit, I don't know what the slant of the Daily Camera is - but I don't believe including them in the circle of "pussyfooting" liberals would be too much of a stretch.

And yes, I did mean to use the word "obtuse". Its my way of cutting through the platitudes and getting straight to the point. 

Posted by cordeiro
Ok, I'll freely admit that I don't have a copy of a 1980 employment application to CU handy. I will, however, also admit to having applied to CU both as a student and as an employee during that decade - and both applications had the aforementioned legalese as part of the process.

Having been absent from CU for more years than I will here admit, I don't know what the slant of the Daily Camera is - but I don't believe including them in the circle of "pussyfooting" liberals would be too much of a stretch.

And yes, I did mean to use the word "obtuse". Its my way of cutting through the platitudes and getting straight to the point. 

Posted by cordeiro
Ok, I'll freely admit that I don't have a copy of a 1980 employment application to CU handy. I will, however, also admit to having applied to CU both as a student and as an employee during that decade - and both applications had the aforementioned legalese as part of the process.

Having been absent from CU for more years than I will here admit, I don't know what the slant of the Daily Camera is - but I don't believe including them in the circle of "pussyfooting" liberals would be too much of a stretch.

And yes, I did mean to use the word "obtuse". Its my way of cutting through the platitudes and getting straight to the point. 

Posted by cordeiro
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